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《网络世界》:默默无闻的十大技术之父(组图)

垃圾邮件之父:加里·瑟尔克

垃圾邮件之父:加里·瑟尔克(Gary Thuerk)

1978年,美国数字设备(DEC)公司一名销售代表向ARPANET网络早期邮件列表中的数百名收件人发去了商品促销邮件,此举不但使发送邮件的瑟尔克一夜成名,而且运营ARPANET网络的美国政府对此大为光火,并威胁将把瑟尔克投入监狱。时至今日,在全球所发送的邮件中,80%~90%为垃圾邮件,人们很难完全弄清这些垃圾邮件来自何处,对治理垃圾邮件事宜并无良策。

目前瑟尔克在惠普任职,其工作职责仍然还是销售计算机设备。他说:“我是全球第一个发送垃圾邮件的人,我对此倍感自豪。”  

目录

简介编辑本段回目录

垃圾邮件是一种颇有些年头的营销技术,Gary Thuerk曾通过 Arpanet 向他的客户群发了一封推销 Digital 最新 T系列 VAX 系统的邮件,他不曾料到的是,这是世界上第一封垃圾邮件。

Gary Thuerk was the world's first e-mail spammer. On May 3, 1978, Carl Gartley, on Thuerk's behalf, sent out the first spam over the network of government and university computers known as the ARPAnet. A marketing manager for Digital Equipment Corporation, he wanted to publicize open houses in Los Angeles and San Mateo where the company's latest computers would be unveiled.

Several thousand people were on the ARPAnet then, most of them computer scientists. Thuerk wanted to send all 600 ARPAnet members on the West Coast of the US an e-mail invitation. He decided it was too much work to send everyone a single e-mail, which was the standard practice at the time, so he decided to send one e-mail to everyone. The reaction from the net community was fiercely negative, but Thuerk's spam did generate some sales. Thuerk was interviewed on CBC Television's SPAM: The Documentary.

Thuerk's innovation has got him noted in Guinness World Records. He also does some "promotional work for anti-spam companies." "He says people have one of three reactions when they meet him: some are excited to meet someone with an unusual claim to fame; some want to beat him up on the spot; and others just avoid him like the plague."

当年的原件编辑本段回目录

Mail-from: DEC-MARLBORO rcvd at 3-May-78 0955-PDT

Date:  1 May 1978 1233-EDT

From: THUERK at DEC-MARLBORO

Subject: ADRIAN@SRI-KL

To:   DDAY at SRI-KL, DAY at SRI-KL, DEBOER at UCLA-CCN,

To:   WASHDC at SRI-KL, LOGICON at USC-ISI, SDAC at USC-ISI,

To:   DELDO at USC-ISI, DELEOT at USC-ISI, DELFINO at USC-ISI,

To:   DENICOFF at USC-ISI, DESPAIN at USC-ISI, DEUTSCH at SRI-KL,

To:   DEUTSCH at PARC-MAXC, EMY at CCA-TENEX, DIETER at USC-ISIB,

To:   DINES at AMES-67, MERADCON at SRI-KL, EPG-SPEC at SRI-KA,

To:   DIVELY at SRI-KL, DODD at USC-ISI, DONCHIN at USC-ISIC,

To:   JED at LLL-COMP, DORIN at CCA-TENEX, NYU at SRI-KA,

To:   DOUGHERTY at USC-ISI, PACOMJ6 at USC-ISI,

To:   DEBBY at UCLA-SECURITY, BELL at SRI-KL, JHANNON at SRI-KA,

To:   DUBOIS at USC-ISI, DUDA at SRI-KL, POH at USC-ISI,

To:   LES at SU-AI, EAST at BBN-TENEX, DEASTMAN at USC-ECL,

To:   EBISU at I4-TENEX, NAC at USC-ISIE, ECONOMIDIS at I4-TENEX,

To:   WALSH at SRI-KL, GEDWARDS at SRI-KL, WEDWARDS at USC-ISI,

To:   NUSC at SRI-KL, RM at SU-AI, ELKIND at PARC-MAXC,

To:   ELLENBY at PARC-MAXC, ELLIS at PARC-MAXC, ELLIS at USC-ISIB,

To:   ENGELBART at SRI-KL, ENGELMORE at SUMEX-AIM,

To:   ENGLISH at PARC-MAXC, ERNST at I4-TENEX,

To:   ESTRIN at MIT-MULTICS, EYRES at USC-ISIC,

To:   FAGAN at SUMEX-AIM, FALCONER at SRI-KL,

To:   DUF at UCLA-SECURITY, FARBER at RAND-UNIX, PMF at SU-AI,

To:   HALFF at USC-ISI, RJF at MIT-MC, FEIERBACH at I4-TENEX,

To:   FEIGENBAUM at USC-ISI, FEINLER at SRI-KL,

To:   FELDMAN at SUMEX-AIM, FELDMAN at SRI-KL, FERNBACH at LLL-COMP,

To:   FERRARA at RADC-MULTICS, FERRETTI at SRI-KA,

To:   FIALA at PARC-MAXC, FICKAS at USC-ISIC, AFIELD at I4-TENEX,

To:   FIKES at PARC-MAXC, REF at SU-AI, FINK at MIT-MULTICS,

To:   FINKEL at USC-ISIB, FINN at USC-ISIB, AFGWC at BBN-TENEX,

To:   FLINT at SRI-KL, WALSH at SRI-KL, DRXAN at SRI-KA,

To:   FOX at SRI-KL, FRANCESCHINI at MIT-MULTICS,

To:   SAI at USC-ISIC, FREDRICKSON at RAND-RCC, ETAC at BBN-TENEXB,

To:   FREYLING at BBN-TENEXE, FRIEDLAND at SUMEX-AIM,

To:   FRIENDSHUH at SUMEX-AIM, FRITSCH at LLL-COMP, ME at SU-AI,

To:   FURST at BBN-TENEXB, FUSS at LLL-COMP, OP-FYE at USC-ISIB,

To:   SCHILL at USC-ISIC, GAGLIARDI at USC-ISIC,

To:   GAINES at RAND-UNIX, GALLENSON at USC-ISIB,

To:   GAMBLE at BBN-TENEXE, GAMMILL at RAND-UNIX,

To:   GANAN at USC-ISI, GARCIA at SUMEX-AIM,

To:   GARDNER at SUMEX-AIM, MCCUTCHEN at SRI-KL,

To:   GARDNER at MIT-MULTICS, GARLICK at SRI-KL,

To:   GARVEY at SRI-KL, GAUTHIER at USC-ISIB,

To:   USGS-LIA at BBN-TENEX, GEMOETS at I4-TENEX,

To:   GERHART at USC-ISIB, GERLA at USC-ISIE, GERLACH at I4-TENEX,

To:   GERMAN at HARV-10, GERPHEIDE at SRI-KA, DANG at SRI-KL,

To:   GESCHKE at PARC-MAXC, GIBBONS at CMU-10A,

To:   GIFFORD.COMPSYS at MIT-MULTICS, JGILBERT at BBN-TENEXB,

To:   SGILBERT at BBN-TENEXB, SDAC at USC-ISI,

To:   GILLOGLY at RAND-UNIX, STEVE at RAND-UNIX,

To:   GLEASON at SRI-KL, JAG;BIN(1525) at UCLA-CCN,

To:   GOLD at LL-11, GOLDBERG at USC-ISIB, GOLDGERG at SRI-KL,

To:   GROBSTEIN at SRI-KL, GOLDSTEIN at BBN-TENEXB,

To:   DARPM-NW at BBN-TENEXB, GOODENOUGH at USC-ISIB,

To:   GEOFF at SRI-KL, GOODRICH at I4-TENEX, GOODWIN at USC-ISI,

To:   GOVINSKY at SRI-KL, DEAN at I4-TENEX, TEG at MIT-MULTICS,

To:   CCG at SU-AI, EPG-SPEC at SRI-KA, GRISS at USC-ECL,

To:   BJG at RAND-UNIX, MCCUTCHEN at SRI-KL, GROBSTEIN at SRI-KL,

To:   MOBAH at I4-TENEX, GUSTAFSON at USC-ISIB, GUTHARY at SRI-KL,

To:   GUTTAG at USC-ISIB, GUYTON at RAND-RCC,

To:   ETAC-AD at BBN-TENEXB, HAGMANN at USC-ECL, HALE at I4-TENEX,

To:   HALFF at USC-ISI, DEHALL at MIT-MULTICS,

To:   HAMPEL at LLL-COMP, HANNAH at USC-ISI,

To:   NORSAR-TIP at USC-ISIC, SCRL at USC-ISI, HAPPY at SRI-KL,

To:   HARDY at SRI-KL, IMPACT at SRI-KL, KLH at SRI-KL,

To:   J33PAC at USC-ISI, HARRISON at SRI-KL, WALSH at SRI-KL,

To:   DRCPM-FF at BBN-TENEXB, HART at AMES-67, HART at SRI-KL,

To:   HATHAWAY at AMES-67, AFWL at I4-TENEX, BHR at RAND-UNIX,

To:   RICK at RAND-UNIX, DEBE at USC-ISIB, HEARN at USC-ECL,

To:   HEATH at UCLA-ATS, HEITMEYER at BBN-TENEX, ADTA at SRI-KA,

To:   HENDRIX at SRI-KL, CH47M at BBN-TENEXB, HILLIER at SRI-KL,

To:   HISS at I4-TENEX, ASLAB at USC-ISIC, HOLG at USC-ISIB,

To:   HOLLINGWORTH at USC-ISIB, HOLLOWAY at HARV-10,

To:   HOLMES at SRI-KL, HOLSWORTH at SRI-KA, HOLT at LLL-COMP,

To:   HOLTHAM at LL, DHOLZMAN at RAND-UNIX, HOPPER at USC-ISIC,

To:   HOROWITZ at USC-ISIB, VSC at USC-ISI, HOWARD at LLL-COMP,

To:   HOWARD at USC-ISI, PURDUE at USC-ISI, HUBER at RAND-RCC,

To:   HUNER at RADC-MULTICS, HUTSON at AMES-67, IMUS at USC-ISI,

To:   JACOBS at USC-ISIE, JACOBS at BBN-TENEXB,

To:   JACQUES at BBN-TENEXB, JARVIS at PARC-MAXC,

To:   JEFFERS at PARC-MAXC, JENKINS at PARC-MAXC,

To:   JENSEN at SRI-KA, JIRAK at SUMEX-AIM, NICKIE at SRI-KL,

To:   JOHNSON at SUMEX-AIM, JONES at SRI-KL, JONES at LLL-COMP,

To:   JONES at I4-TENEX, RLJ at MIT-MC, JURAK at USC-ECL,

To:   KAHLER at SUMEX-AIM, MWK at SU-AI, KAINE at USC-ISIB,

To:   KALTGRAD at UCLA-ATS, MARK at UCLA-SECURITY, RAK at SU-AI,

To:   KASTNER at USC-ISIB, KATT at USC-ISIB,

To:   UCLA-MNC at USC-ISI, ALAN at PARC-MAXC, KEENAN at USC-ISI,

To:   KEHL at UCLA-CCN, KELLEY at SRI-KL, BANANA at I4-TENEX,

To:   KELLOGG at USC-ISI, DDI at USC-ISI, KEMERY at SRI-KL,

To:   KEMMERER at UCLA-ATS, PARVIZ at UCLA-ATS, KING at SUMEX-AIM,

To:   KIRSTEIN at USC-ISI, SDC at UCLA-SECURITY,

To:   KLEINROCK at USC-ISI, KLEMBA at SRI-KL, CSK at USC-ISI,

To:   KNIGHT at SRI-KL, KNOX at USC-ISI, KODA at USC-ISIB,

To:   KODANI at AMES-67, KOOIJ at USC-ISI, KREMERS at SRI-KL,

To:   BELL at SRI-KL, KUNZELMAN at SRI-KL, PROJX at SRI-KL,

To:   LAMPSON at PARC-MAXC, SDL at RAND-UNIX, JOJO at SRI-KL,

To:   SDC at USC-ISI, NELC3030 at USC-ISI,

To:   LEDERBERG at SUMEX-AIM, LEDUC at SRI-KL, JSLEE at USC-ECL,

To:   JACOBS at USC-ISIE, WREN at USC-ISIB, LEMONS at USC-ISIB,

To:   LEUNG at SRI-KL, J33PAC at USC-ISI, LEVIN at USC-ISIB,

To:   LEVINTHAL at SUMEX-AIM, LICHTENBERGER at I4-TENEX,

To:   LICHTENSTEIN at USC-ISI, LIDDLE at PARC-MAXC,

To:   LIEB at USC-ISIB, LIEBERMAN at SRI-KL, STANL at USC-ISIE,

To:   LIERE at I4-TENEX, DOCB at USC-ISIC, LINDSAY at SRI-KL,

To:   LINEBARGER at AMES-67, LIPKIS at USC-ECL, SLES at USC-ISI,

To:   LIS at SRI-KL, LONDON at USC-ISIB, J33PAC at USC-ISI,

To:   LOPER at SRI-KA, LOUVIGNY at SRI-KL, LOVELACE at USC-ISIB,

To:   LUCANIC at SRI-KL, LUCAS at USC-ISIB, DCL at SU-AI,

To:   LUDLAM at UCLA-CCN, YNGVAR at SRI-KA, LYNCH at SRI-KL,

To:   LYNN at USC-ISIB, MABREY at SRI-KL, MACKAY at AMES-67,

To:   MADER at USC-ISIB, MAGILL at SRI-KL, KMAHONEY at BBN-TENEX,

To:   MANN at USC-ISIB, ZM at SU-AI, MANNING at USC-ISI,

To:   MANTIPLY at I4-TENEX, MARIN at I4-TENEX, SCRL at USC-ISI,

To:   HARALD at SRI-KA, GLORIA-JEAN at UCLA-CCN, MARTIN at USC-ISIC,

To:   WMARTIN at USC-ISI, GRM at RAND-UNIX, MASINTER at USC-ISI,

To:   MASON at USC-ISIB, MATHIS at SRI-KL, MAYNARD at USC-ISIC,

To:   MCBREARTY at SRI-KL, MCCALL at SRI-KA, MCCARTHY at SU-AI,

To:   MCCLELLAND at USC-ISI, DORIS at RAND-UNIX, MCCLURG at SRI-KL,

To:   JOHN at I4-TENEX, MCCREIGHT at PARC-MAXC, MCCRUMB at USC-ISI,

To:   DRXTE at SRI-KA

cc:   BPM at SU-AI

Note here how we get to the body of the message and there are still addresses going into it that wouldn't fit!

MCKINLEY@USC-ISIB

MMCM@SRI-KL

OT-ITS@SRI-KA

BELL@SRI-KL

MEADE@SRI-KL

MARTIN@USC-ISI

MERRILL@BBN-TENEX

METCALFE@PARC-MAXC

JMETZGER@USC-ISIB

MICHAEL@USC-ISIC

CMILLER@SUMEX-AIM

MILLER@USC-ISI

SCI@USC-ISI

MILLER@USC-ISIC

MITCHELL@PARC-MAXC

MITCHELL@USC-ISI

MITCHELL@SUMEX-AIM

MLM@SU-AI

JPDG@TENEXB

MOORE@USC-ISIB

WMORE@USC-ISIB

JAM@SU-AI

MORAN@PARC-MAXC

ROZ@SU-AI

MORGAN@USC-ISIB

MORRIS@PARC-MAXC

MORRIS@I4-TENEX

OT-ITS@SRI-KA

LISA@USC-ISIB

MOSHER@SRI-KL

MULHERN@USC-ISI

MUNTZ;BIN(1529)@UCLA-CCN

MYERS@USC-ISIC

MYERS@RAND-RCC

DRCPM-FF-FO@BBN-TENEXB

NAGEL@USC-ISIB

NAPKE@SRI-KL

NARDI@SRI-KL

NAYLOR@USC-ISIE

LOU@USC-ISIE

NESBIT@RAND-RCC

NEUMANN@SRI-KA

NEVATIA@USC-ECL

NEWBY@USC-ISI

NEWEKK@SRI-KA

NIELSON@SRI-KL

NLL@SUMEX-AIM

NILSSON@SRI-KL

NITZAN@SRI-KL

NOEL@USC-ISIC

NORMAN@PARC-MAXC

NORTON@SRI-KL

JOAN@USC-ISIB

NOURSE@SUMEX-AIM

PDG@SRI-KL

OMALLEY@SRI-KA

OCKEN@USC-ISIC

OESTREICHER@USC-ISIB

OGDEN@SRI-KA

OKINAKA@USC-ISIE

OLSON@I4-TENEX

ORNSTEIN@PARC-MAXC

PANKO@SRI-KL

TED@SU-AI

PARK@SRI-KL

PBARAN@USC-ISI

PARKER@USC-ISIB

PEARCE@USC-ISI

PEPIN@USC-ECL

PERKINS@USC-ISIB

PETERS@SRI-KL

AMPETERSON@USC-ISI

ASLAB@USC-ISIC

EPG-SPEC@SRI-KA

PEZDIRTZ@LLL-COMP

CHARLIE@I4-TENEX

UCLA-DOC@USC-ISI

WPHILLIPS@USC-ISI

PIERCY@MOFFETT-ARC

PINE@SRI-KL

PIPES@I4-TENEX

PIRTLE@SRI-KL

POGGIO@USC-ISIC

POH@USC-ISI

POOL@BBN-TENEX

POPEK@USC-ISI

POSTEL@USC-ISIB

POWER@SRI-KL

PRICE@USC-ECL

RANDALL@USC-ISIB

RANDALL@SRI-KA

RAPHAEL@SRI-KL

RAPP@RAND-RCC

RASMUSSEN@USC-ISIC

RATTNER@SRI-KL

RAY@ILL-NTX

FNWC@I4-TENEX

BRL@SRI-KL

RETZ@SRI-KL

SKIP@USC-ISIB

RICHARDSON@USC-ISIB

RICHES@USC-ECL

GWEN@USC-ECL

OP-RIEDEL@USC-ISIB

RIES@LLL-COMP

RINDFLEISCH@SUMEX-AIM

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JROBINSON@SRI-KL

RODRIQUEZ@SRI-KL

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ROMIEZ@I4-TENEX

ROSE@USC-ISI

ROSEN@SRI-KL

BARBARA@I4-TENEX

ROTHENBERG@USC-ISIB

RUBIN@SRI-KL

JBR@SU-AI

RUBINSTEIN@BBN-TENEXD

RUDY@USC-ECL

RUGGERI@SRI-KA

RULIFSON@PARC-MAXC

DALE@USC-ISIB

SACERDOTI@SRI-KL

SAGALOWICZ@SRI-KL

ALS@SU-AI

SANTONI@USC-ISIC

SATTERTHWAITE@PARC-MAXC

SAWCHUK@USC-ECL

CPF-CC@USC-ISI

SCHELONKA@USC-ISI

SCHILL@USC-ISIC

SCHILLING@USC-ISI

SCHULZ@SUMEX-AIM

SCOTT@SUMEX-AIM

CPF-CC@USC-ISI

OP-SEATON@USC-ISIB

SENNE@LL

NORM@RAND-UNIX

AFWL@14-TENEX

SHEPPARD@LL-ASG

SHERWIN@USC-ISI

SHERWOOD@SRI-KL

SHORT@SRI-KL

SHORTLIFE@SUMEX-AIM

SHOSHANI@BBN-TENEX

MARTIN@USC-ISI

UCLA-NMC@USC-ISIE

SDL@USC-ISIC

SKOCYPEC@USC-ISI

SLES@USC-ISI

SLOTTOW@UCLA-CCN

NOAA@14-TENEX

SMALL@USC-ISI

DAVESMITH@PARC-MAXC

DSMITH@RAND-UNIX

SMITH@SUMEX-AIM

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MARCIE@I4-TENEX

USARSGEUR@USC-ISI

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EPA@SRI-KL

SONDEREGGER@USC-ISIB

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PROJX@SRI-KL

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WACTLAR@CMU-10A

WAGNER@USC-ISI

WAHRMAN@RAND-UNIX

WALDINGER@SRI-KL

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EVE@UCLA-SECURITY

LOGICON@USC-ISI

DON@RAND-UNIX

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WEINBERG@SRI-KL

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SCRL@USC-ISI

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WHITE@PARC-MAXC

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EPG-SPEC@SRI-KA

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WILE@USC-ISIB

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WISNIEWSKI@RAND-UNIX

WOLF@SRI-KL

PAT@SU-AI

NELC3030@USC-ISI

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LEO@USC-ISIB

YEH@LLL-COMP

YONKE@USC-ISIB

YOUNGBERG@SRI-KA

ZEGERS@SRI-KL

ZOLOTOW@SRI-KL

ZOSEL@LLL-COMP

DIGITAL WILL BE GIVING A PRODUCT PRESENTATION OF THE NEWEST MEMBERS OF THE

DECSYSTEM-20 FAMILY; THE DECSYSTEM-2020, 2020T, 2060, AND 2060T.  THE

DECSYSTEM-20 FAMILY OF COMPUTERS HAS EVOLVED FROM THE TENEX OPERATING SYSTEM

AND THE DECSYSTEM-10 <PDP-10> COMPUTER ARCHITECTURE.  BOTH THE DECSYSTEM-2060T

AND 2020T OFFER FULL ARPANET SUPPORT UNDER THE TOPS-20 OPERATING SYSTEM.

THE DECSYSTEM-2060 IS AN UPWARD EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT DECSYSTEM 2040

AND 2050 FAMILY. THE DECSYSTEM-2020 IS A NEW LOW END MEMBER OF THE

DECSYSTEM-20 FAMILY AND FULLY SOFTWARE COMPATIBLE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER

DECSYSTEM-20 MODELS.

WE INVITE YOU TO COME SEE THE 2020 AND HEAR ABOUT THE DECSYSTEM-20 FAMILY

AT THE TWO PRODUCT PRESENTATIONS WE WILL BE GIVING IN CALIFORNIA THIS

MONTH.  THE LOCATIONS WILL BE:


               TUESDAY, MAY 9, 1978 - 2 PM

                   HYATT HOUSE (NEAR THE L.A. AIRPORT)

                   LOS ANGELES, CA


               THURSDAY, MAY 11, 1978 - 2 PM

                   DUNFEY'S ROYAL COACH

                   SAN MATEO, CA

                   (4 MILES SOUTH OF S.F. AIRPORT AT BAYSHORE, RT 101 AND RT 92)


A 2020 WILL BE THERE FOR YOU TO VIEW. ALSO TERMINALS ON-LINE TO OTHER

DECSYSTEM-20 SYSTEMS THROUGH THE ARPANET. IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND,

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT THE NEAREST DEC OFFICE

FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXCITING DECSYSTEM-20 FAMILY.

The Reaction to that First Spam

Here's just a snippet of some of the reaction...

10-MAY-78 23:20:30-PDT,1491;000000000001

Mail-from: SRI-KA rcvd at 5-MAY-78 1203-PDT

Mail-from: SRI-KL rcvd at 5-May-78 0732-PDT

Date:  4 May 1978 1635-PDT

From: Feinler at SRI-KL (Jake Feinler)

Subject: MSGGROUP# 694  DEC Message

To:   DEC-MAIL-RECIPIENTS:

Redistributed-To: [ISI]<MsgGroup>Mailing.List;154:

Redistributed-By: STEFFERUD (connected to MSGGROUP)

Redistributed-Date:  5 MAY 1978



Date:  4 MAY 1978 0452-PDT

To:   FEINLER at SRI-KL

From: DCACODE535 at USC-ISI

JAKE,

YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED THE MSG SENT OUT BY DEC ON MAY 1 ABOUT WHICH I HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED SEVERAL COMPLAINTS AS YOU CAN READILY IMAGINE. CAN YOU FORWARD THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE TO ALL ADDRESSES OF THE SUSPECT MESSAGE PLUS ALL HOST AND TIP LIAISONS? THANKS:

NOTE: Please direct your comments, if any, directly to DCACODE535@ISI. Thanks, Jake.

ON 2 MAY 78 DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION (DEC) SENT OUT AN ARPANET MESSAGE ADVERTISING THEIR NEW COMPUTER SYSTEMS. THIS WAS A FLAGRANT VIOLATION OF THE USE OF ARPANET AS THE NETWORK IS TO BE USED FOR OFFICIAL U.S. GOVERNMENT BUSINESS ONLY. APPROPRIATE ACTION IS BEING TAKEN TO PRECLUDE ITS OCCURRENCE AGAIN.

IN ENFORCEMENT OF THIS POLICY DCA IS DEPENDENT ON THE ARPANET SPONSORS, AND HOST AND TIP LIAISONS. IT IS IMPERATIVE YOU INFORM YOUR USERS AND CONTRACTORS WHO ARE PROVIDED ARPANET ACCESS THE MEANING OF THIS POLICY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

MAJOR RAYMOND CZAHOR

CHIEF, ARPANET MANAGEMENT BRANCH, DCA

10-MAY-78 23:20:30-PDT,2192;000000000001

Mail-from: SRI-KL rcvd at 7-MAY-78 1527-PDT

Date:  7 May 1978 1527-PDT

From: Feinler at SRI-KL (Jake Feinler)

Subject: MSGGROUP# 695  Personal comments on DEC message for MsgGroup

To:   Stef at ISI

cc:   feinler

Redistributed-To: [ISI]<MsgGroup>Mailing.List;154:

Redistributed-By: STEFFERUD (connected to MSGGROUP)

Redistributed-Date:  7 MAY 1978

I was not going to comment (and add to the traffic) on the issue of the DEC message that was sent out, but after having several conversations with people about and around on this issue I think I will add what hopefully will be useful insight to the problem. NOTE: The comments are my own. They do not represent any official message from DCA or the NIC.

There are two kinds of message that have been frowned upon on the network. These are advertising of particular products and advertising for or by job applicants. I would like to point out that there are good reasons (other than taking up valuable resources and the fact that some recipients object) for not permitting these kinds of messages. There are many companies in the U.S. and abroad that would like to have access to the Arpanet. Naturally all of them cannot have this access. Consequently if the ones that do have access can advertise their products to a very select market and the others cannot, this is really an unfair advantage. Likewise, if job applicants can be selected amongst some of the best trained around, or if the applicants themselves can advertise to a very select group of prospective employers, this is an unfair advantage to other prospective employees or employers who are not on the net.

I have heard some rumblings about 'control' and 'censorship' of the net by the powers-that-be, but I feel in these two particular areas they are leaning over backwards to be fair to the big guys and the small guys alike. In addition, the official message sent out asked us ('us' being network users) to address the issue ourselves. I personally think this is reasonable and think we should lend our support or otherwise be saddled with controls that will be a nuisance to everyone involved.

Regards,

Jake

10-MAY-78 23:20:30-PDT,3281;000000000001

Mail-from: SU-AI rcvd at 7-MAY-78 2058-PDT

Date: 7 May 1978 2057-PDT

From: MRC at SU-AI (Mark Crispin)

Subject: MSGGROUP# 696  in reply to Jake's message about advertising

To:   MsgGroup at USC-ISI

Redistributed-To: [ISI]<MsgGroup>Mailing.List;154:

Redistributed-By: STEFFERUD (connected to MSGGROUP)

Redistributed-Date:  8 MAY 1978

I agree with Jake about suppressing advertising for many of the same reasons as I disagreed with suppressing subjective messages about QUASAR. The ARPAnet is not, as Jake pointed out, a public resource; it is available to pretty much a select group of people (high school kids regardless!). We are all engaged in activities relating to, or in support of, official US Government business. ARPAnet mail therefore is more of an "interoffice memo" sort of thing than a trade journal, not intended for public distribution although not "top secret" either.

Even MsgGroup is in this class; however inappropriate QUASAR is to MsgGroup's intent (and it was inappropriate) I feel that any censorship can only lead to worse things later on. I am sure that DCA realizes this also; otherwise the ARPAnet would have been curbed long ago. Whether or not QUASAR is a fake is a valid topic to be discussed among the computer science community via the ARPAnet; although it is inappropriate for MsgGroup. If there is sufficient interest, another group should be created whose purpose and interests embrace this issue.

I don't see any place for advertising on the ARPAnet, however; certainly not the bulk advertising of that DEC message. From the address list, it seems clear to me that the people it was sent to were the Californians listed in the last ARPAnet directory. This was a clear and flagrant abuse of the directory!

I am not sure as to how far this should be carried though. I would not mind hearing from DEC about their new products via ARPAnet mail, but I would expect considerably more technical content and considerably less of a sales pitch. Where is the line to be drawn between this sort of thing (if it is to be allowed at all) and advertising? Another point Jake mentioned which concerns me is that of employment hunting (by employee or employer). Is that to be taken to mean that a person cannot establish contacts at another ARPAnet site and poke around about a possible position there? Is this really unfair to non-ARPAnet people? Allow me to point out that at times a job is created in order to have a particular person on the staff, and if that person is unavailable, the job won't exist.

This all seems worthy of examination by the MsgGroup community, as it involves how electronic mail is to be used. Something else; I would greatly appreciate it if all comments about this make a distinction between ARPAnet mail and mail on another (possibly commercial) network. Saying that electronic junk mail is a no-no on the ARPAnet doesn't answer the question. I shudder to think about it, but I can envision junk mail being sent to people who implement Dialnet, and no way it could be prevented or stopped. I guess the ultimate solution is the command in your mail reading subsystem which deletes an unwanted message.

-- Mark

10-MAY-78 23:20:30-PDT,2250;000000000001

Mail-from: MIT-AI rcvd at 7-MAY-78 2316-PDT

Date: 8 MAY 1978 0213-EDT

From: RMS at MIT-AI (Richard M. Stallman)

Subject: MSGGROUP# 697  Some Thoughts about advertising

To: stefferud at USC-ISI

Redistributed-To: [ISI]<MsgGroup>Mailing.List;154:

Redistributed-By: STEFFERUD (connected to MSGGROUP)

Redistributed-Date:  8 MAY 1978

1) I didn't receive the DEC message, but I can't imagine I would have been bothered if I have. I get tons of uninteresting mail, and system announcements about babies born, etc. At least a demo MIGHT have been interesting.

2) The amount of harm done by any of the cited "unfair" things the net has been used for is clearly very small. And if they have found any people any jobs, clearly they have done good. If I had a job to offer, I would offer it to my friends first. Is this "evil"? Must I advertise in a paper in every city in the US with population over 50,000 and then go to all of them to interview, all in the name of fairness? Some people, I am afraid, would think so. Such a great insistence on fairness would destort everyone's lives and do much more harm than good. So I state unashamedly that I am in favor of seeing jobs offered via whatever.

3) It has just been suggested that we impose someone's standards on us because otherwise he MIGHT do so. Well, if you feel that those standards are right and necessary, go right ahead and support them. But if you disagree with them, as I do, why hand your opponents the victory on a silver platter? By the suggested reasoning, we should always follow the political views that we don't believe in, and especially those of terrorists, in anticipation of their attempts to impose them on us. If those who think that the job offers are bad are going to try to prevent them, then those of us who think they are unrepugnant should uphold our views. Besides, I doubt that anyone can successfully force a site from outside to impose censorship, if the people there don't fundamentally agree with the desirability of it.

4) Would a dating service for people on the net be "frowned upon" by DCA? I hope not. But even if it is, don't let that stop you from notifying me via net mail if you start one.

10-MAY-78 23:20:30-PDT,685;000000000001

Mail-from: MIT-AI rcvd at 9-MAY-78 1528-PDT

Date: 9 MAY 1978 1827-EDT

From: RMS at MIT-AI (Richard M. Stallman)

Subject: MSGGROUP# 698  DEC message [VERY TASTY!]

To: Stefferud at USC-ISI

CC: Geoff at SRI-KL

Redistributed-To: [ISI]<MsgGroup>Mailing.List;154:

Redistributed-By: STEFFERUD (connected to MSGGROUP)

Redistributed-Date:  9 MAY 1978

Well, Geoff forwarded me a copy of the DEC message, and I eat my words. I sure would have minded it! Nobody should be allowed to send a message with a header that long, no matter what it is about.

Forward this if you feel like it.

[EDITORS NOTE: ACTUALLY, I THINK RMS@MIT-AI NEEDS SOME MORE COPIES. /STEF]

10-MAY-78 23:20:30-PDT,13632;000000000000

Mail-from: SRI-KA rcvd at 10-MAY-78 0921-PDT

Date: 10 May 1978 0910-PDT

Sender: GEOFF at SRI-KA

Subject: MSGGROUP# 699  [THUERK at DEC-MARLBORO: ADRIAN@SRI-KL]

From: Geoff at SRI-KA (Geoffrey S. Goodfellow)

To: msggroup at ISI

Message-ID: <[SRI-KA]10-May-78 09:10:14.GEOFF>

Begin forwarded message

===========================

Mail-from: DEC-MARLBORO rcvd at 3-May-78 0955-PDT

Date:  1 May 1978 1233-EDT

From: THUERK at DEC-MARLBORO

Subject: ADRIAN@SRI-KL

To:   DDAY at SRI-KL, DAY at SRI-KL, DEBOER at UCLA-CCN,

[SNIP]... [SNIP]... [SNIP]... [SNIP]... [SNIP]... [SNIP]... [SNIP]

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